Nvidia launches the $1,000 RTX 4080 Super, $800 RTX 4070 Ti Super, and $600 RTX 4070 Super

At the end of the day, I just want to sit down and play some games. I don't want to deal with the possibility of the 12VHPWR connector melting and putting me out for a few weeks. I know it's not an issue for everyone, but it can't be an issue for me if I don't own one.

I'll think I'll only consider alternatives for as long as that GPU connector exists on high end GPUs; at least until something is actually done to rectify the issues with it.

Beerfloat said:

What is 'widely reported' is almost always anecdotal information. Some dealer said this about some week of some month. Some unnamed source said that. It is noise.

The only thing close to data that the public has to go on seems to be JPR and the Steam survey, warts and all. If you have better information, share it.

And if you're going to make bold claims about sales figures, back them up or get called out.

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But apparently, only backing them up with the data you deem worthy -I.e., that agrees with your forgone conclusion- is adequate, so why bother?

ScottSoapbox said:

But apparently, only backing them up with the data you deem worthy -I.e., that agrees with your forgone conclusion- is adequate, so why bother?

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I told you what data my best guess is based on. You never tried to supply any in the first place, said it wasn't necessary because this was 'widely reported', which is your basic ad populum fallacy.

To me there is no foregone conclusion on this particular matchup at all. But honestly, would it *really* surprise you if it turns out that some Nvidia model ends up selling (way) more than its closest AMD competitor? I'm not talking about relative merits of the cards at all here, or whether it is fair or makes sense. Merely about how plausible it is, in light of historic trends.